the opposite impact. frankly, the president doesn't need obamacare. he has a sort of special set of doctors and health care providers. maybe in 2017, he can sign up. i think even after you served your term you get pretty good health care as an ex-president. so it had the opposite effect. instead of sending a message -- >> but to be fair -- >> let's not forget, the interest has been mandated by the government. the government is making you do this. this is an individual mandate that president obama and the democrats wrote into law so this is not some sort of, you know, an interest that is at its genesis people wanting to find out more about their health coverage. they have to buy it. the government is now making them. >> let's be clear about something here, too. a lot of people are saying the uninsured isn't going to sign up. that's not true. most people who don't have coverage -- >> the problem is -- >> -- want coverage. >> more people are losing it because of this law than are signing up for it. >> no, that's a small amount of people. >> millions of people. >> millions of people. >> that's not a small amount. >> 5% of the american