Laura Ingraham shines a spotlight on everyday Americans and examines how their lives are affected by politics at the federal, state and local level. About Mollie Tibbetts. The trump organization, according to this indictment, said Michael Cohen pled guilty to lies saying that the money it reimbursed Michael Cohen for paying off Stormy Daniels was legal expenses. Thats a lie. That is dishonest. Thats a violation of law. Isnt that why you hire an attorney. To give them the money so they do it legally and lawfully . Then you list it as paying off somebody for their silence, not as legal expenses. It went to her. She is not a lawyer. He is a lawyer. Is that what mark elias did with the Dossier Money . All those millions of dollars, did that get fully disclosed . No, they were paid to attorneys and those attorneys went and funded this dirty dossier, right . They werent trying to buy anybodys silence . They were trying to by a dirty dossier. Can we be spared the argument that this was done not because
donald trump was running for president , because he wanted to be spared any embarrassment with his wife, something he did with Stormy Daniels in 2006. By some coincidence in october of 2016, all of a sudden, that embarrassment was going to do him in . Please. One of the things, dan, i am concerned about is the proximity of lanny davis in this situation. Here you have somebody from the clinton orbit. All the attorneys in the world and they go get lanny davis. Is that suspicious . These are possibly the two dopiest lawyers on the planet, cohen and lanny davis. Lanny davis convinced another lawyer to plead guilty to a crime that doesnt exist. Its incredible. No matter what richard tells you about these fec violations. I ran for office. Congressman, you ran too. I lost. You won. Stinks being on the losing side. But im pretty familiar with
election law. This is not a crime. This is at worst, at worst a civil violation. I dont even think it is bad. Me running for office, i can donate to my campaign unlimited sums. Yes, i would have to report that. But this is debatable if this was even a campaign payment. Why . Richard is trying to debate it right here. Lets be honest. You have no idea why donald trump paid this money. You can speculate. Fair enough, what youre doing. You can say he wanted to spare embarrassment. You dont know that. Can i just say one quick thing to him, the same people who would buy the fact that donald trump meant to say would or wouldnt to Vladimir Putin would believe the notion that on october 25th he paid off Stormy Daniels from something ten years ago and having nothing to do with the president ial campaign. that same person would believe that. Nobody else in the country would. I didnt is Stormy Daniels russian or kremlin connected . Do you have information we dont . Its a serious question. Do you have anything . If youre asking me well see. I got to switch gears here a little bit. Jason lanny davis said something pretty important. Listen from this morning on msnbc. Can you say definitively whether you know Michael Cohen was in prague in 2016 . Never, never in prague. Never, never in prague. Ever. Ever. Just let your viewers know, the dossier, so called, mentioned his name 14 times. One of which is a meeting with russians in prague. 14 times false. Jason thats a pretty strong statement. Going back to the dossier. David, as you look at this, how do you read it . Its a pretty important development. It is an important
development. Just as lanny davis said this morning on americas newsroom, the reason he was willing to take Michael Cohen on was because Michael Cohen wanted to take down President Trump. Look, Gloria Allred tried to use personal information during the 2016 campaign to defeat donald trump and she wasnt successful. What this really means is in 76 days, if you Want Congress to spend two years on investigation and on impeachment, you vote democrat. If you want the congress to focus on job creation policies, securing our border, and annoying the media, you vote republican. Jason last word. Ten seconds. Mostly, david, what the public wants is a check on donald trump. Rightly or wrongly, i think thats what the polling is telling us. The fact that the first two people in congress who endorsed his campaign are now criminal defendants, i just think theres a sense of corruption that the public wants to at least put some brakes on if possible. We will see. Jason bob menendez. Thank you. I appreciate all three of you for joining us tonight. While cohen and manafort are facing serious prison sentences, everyone in Hillary Clintons orbit is getting off scotfree. What about the surveillance of members of the Trump Campaign . No charges filed on that and no evidence that the Special Prosecutor is pursuing that. This all sounds like a twotiered system of justice to me. Raising questions, is the Second Special counsel needed . Joining me now for reaction, former u. S. Attorney Kendall Coffey and bryan rotella, ceo and Senior Partner of genco legal. I appreciate you being here. I want to get your perspective as attorneys. This whole issue of attorneyclient privilege. If you would go out and hire an attorney to do something, i presume you do it to make sure that its done legally and lawfully. You have some protections in being able to give that information would make those things move forward. As you look at this situation, kendall, isnt that a plausible story or scenario . How does that only fall apart in the cohen situation . Thats why we can charge the big bucks. Clients trust us with confidentiality. They trust us with figuring all this out. Campaign finance laws are especially complicated, especially federal Campaign Finance laws. I strongly suspect that not only did the president have no idea someone might put this on a Prosecution Radar Screen some day, but i doubt Michael Cohen did. Whats being talked about is a federal crime, unsuccessfully raised against john edwards. You remember that years ago, discredited as a theory. Most people think if he use personal money that goes to some private person in order to deal with personal issues, thats not a campaign contribution. Jason bryan, are we supposed to believe every conversation now that donald trump has had with his attorney is somehow part of what the Special Counsel gets to look at . Isnt there some sort of limitation . The attorneyclient privilege isnt just waived on all these issues, correct . Yeah, jason. Look, for your audience, anyone who heard this allocution Michael Cohen gave yesterday, allocution might sound like something from the sopranos. I am italianamerican. Folks would get up in front of the court and attest there was a thing called the mafia in the United States. Im not sure if the president should nickname Michael Cohen either better not call saul or captain obvious. Its pretty obvious that what he said yesterday, the president , women he was having relationships with outside of his marriage that he thought that might impact his view, folks view on the election. Nothing criminal about that. Getting to your question is a lawyer, attorneyclient privilege is one thing we have. Lawyers have terrible reputations. And unfortunately we have it for a reason a lot of times. It looks like donald trump has found himself in the Jurassic Park of lawyers. Im waiting for the next Raptor Lawyer to come out. Between lanny davis, and i was listening to your last segment, the stuff he did in the 90s, to some of the things that were seeing now with cohen. And also, lets not forget that jim comey is an attorney. You know very well, jason, look with that attorney dated his findings back on july 5 of 2016. When he found that Hillary Clinton was quoteunquote extremely careless with her emails which by the way was a standard change by our favorite fbi character, peter strzok. Jason a whole nother set of subjects. What is highly suspicious for me is that Donald Trumps former
attorney suddenly represented by somebody from the clinton orbit, lanny davis. Lanny has a duty and responsibility under the law to protect his client, but i want to play a clip from lanny davis here. I want you to ask yourself at home is lanny davis working in the best interests of his client, mr. Cohen, or is he working in the best interest of his own personal political beliefs . Watch this clip. Will Michael Cohen seek a pardon from the president of the United States for any of this . The answer is definitively no, under no circumstances since he came to the judgment after mr. Trumps election to the presidency. That his suitability is a serious risk to our country. Certainly after helsinki, creates serious questions about his loyalty to our country. His answer would be no, i do not want a pardon from this man. Jason are you kidding me . If you are an attorney for
somebody who is now pleading guilty to a felony, you wouldnt accept a pardon from the president of the United States . How in the world can you make a case that thats in the best interests of his client, mr. Cohen . Kendall, what are your thoughts . Well, i think it sounds like positioning. I am sure lanny davis had some conversation with his client as well as his cocounsel before he launched into that. I think anybody would accept a pardon from about anybody who was president. It is so much better than the alternatives. Jason i think he is doing it for political posturing. Bryan, what is your take . I think it is comical lanny davis is Michael Cohens lawyer. For folks that may not remember this, lanny davis was as entrenched in the 90s with the clintons as episodes or
friends and block buster video. He is one of their best friends. Thats the attorney for Michael Cohen. The fact that he said what he said, which i dont believe is a crime. Captain obvious, something about President Trump, and thats all the evidence weve seen today about anything that has to do with President Trump in this investigation, i think it raises a lot of questions. To folks in america wondering what about all the billable hours in the Mueller Investigation . It is on the taxpayers dime and i think theyre probably pretty sick of it. Jason i would love to find out who is funding lanny davis and his political motivations. Gentlemen, thank you. You wouldnt know it by watching msnbc but there were new developments in the Mollie Tibbetts case today. Ed henry will be here next with the report. L be here next with the report. To rent a movie . Even here . Weve got you covered. Now they are all yours. To take on the go. On any screen. Bingo alright and watch whatever you buy. Wherever you are. Head to xfinity. Com stream to start watching. Simple to rent, easy to buy, awesome to go. Jason a tragic story. As a parent, i cant even imagine what went on in iowa and what that family is going through. A tragic story out of iowa. College student Mollie Tibbetts found dead yesterday after a 34 day search. We had a lot of hope they would actually find her, but they didnt. Her alleged killer, an illegal immigrant, was in court for the first time today. Ed henrys here with the latest on this terrible, tragic story. It really is. Jason, good to talk to you. New tonight, democratic senator
elizabeth warren saying she knows its hard for the family of Mollie Tibbetts to deal with this tragedy but the nation, she says, should focus instead on what she called Real Problems like Illegal Illians being separated at the border from their kids. The president is firing back with a video on twitter that says its Mollie Tibbetts who is now personally, permanently separated from her family. Cristhian rivera, the illegal alien charged with firstdegree murder in the death of Mollie Tibbetts, appeared in striped prison garb and shackles in a county court in iowa. I. C. E. Agents say he is from mexico, has been in the u. S. Illegally for up to seven years. Police say rivera confessed that on july 18, he followed Mollie Tibbetts during her nightly jog. She pleaded with him to knock it off, stop trailing her. Warning she would call the police on her cell phone. Rivera claims at that point he blacked out or when he woke up, tibbetts was in his trunk with a bloody skull. Police say he led them to a corn field where they found what they believe to be tibbetts body. Rivera worked at Yarrabee Farms not far from there. An official initially claimed they had put them through Everify System but then clarified that had not happened. The president , as i mentioned, tweeted out a video expressing his sympathy to the tibbetts family and saying this case shows massive reforms of the nations Immigration Laws is simply longoverdue. We screen every applicant through the Social Security administrations Social Security number verification service. In addition, we ran that information to the Verification System and the information came back verified. Our employee was not who he said he was. Nobody has laws like the United States. They are strictly pathetic. We need new Immigration Laws. We need new border laws. The democrats will never give them, and the wall is being built. We have started it. But we also need the funding for this years building of the wall. So to the family of mollie
tibbetts, all i can say is god bless you. Jason with that video as well as the president s mention of tibbetts at the Rally Last Night west virginia, a Defense Attorney said in court today given all those comments, at the highest level of government, the media should be blocked from the courtroom to ensure a fair trial. The judge denied that move, meaning its going to get a lot of media attention. Jason good decision from the court. We appreciate you joining us. Very upsetting. I would like to note fox news is the only Cable News Outlet to air the arraignment of mollies alleged killer. Joining me now is francisco hernandez, an immigration attorney. And art arthur, a fellow at the center for immigration studies. When i was chairman of the House Oversight committee, art arthur was an employee there for some time. A good one, at that. Gentlemen, thank you for being here. Francisco, i want to ask you, do you think its legitimate that news outlets cover this story . I think news outlets ought to
cover what they want to cover. I dont think we can blame 11 Million People for the murder of one person. Jason nobody did that. Name one person. Ive never done that. Who blamed 11 Million People . You just did. The president just said that Immigration Reform is long overdue. Jason do you agree with that . I do agree with that. We have been saying that for 18 years. Whats the problem . Why are we even here politicizing the death of a young lady . You are making money and getting ratings on the death of a young lady and trying to blame 11 Million People in this country for the murder of one person. Jason you dont think its relevant this person is here illegally . It is relevant the person committed a murder. It doesnt effect 11 Million People who the president agrees we ought to have an immigration form. Why are we mixing the two . Jason do you agree that if this person wasnt in this country, this murder would not have occurred . We dont know whether that would have happened. Jason no, we wouldnt. The answer is simple. It would have never happened. If he was not in this country, he wouldve never murdered that young lady. All right, i will give you that. Lets reform the law. Is that going to stop the murder . Its not. Stop politicizing it. Jason how was it politicizing . Let me show you this poll. Francisco. Look at this poll that was done by gallup. Survey of over 1,000 americans. Put this poll on the screen. The number one issue that americans view is the top problem facing the United States of america immigration. The number one issue. It is legitimate. Francisco. What happened to the wall and mexico paying for the wall . Jason you build that wall, Families Dont Get separated. They dont get separated. And they dont come here illegally. Are you saying this murder would not have happened if you build the wall . Yes. Because he wouldnt be here illegally . He had been here long before trump came along. Jason because we have an open, porous border. Art arthur, whats your take on this . Art was a judge in the Immigration System and is well aware of these situations. Please weigh in. If he hadnt been in the United States, this murder never wouldve occurred. The fact is every murder is senseless. This one was needless. The president s 100 correct. Not all immigrants are criminals. In fact, the vast majority arent. But the ones who are, are. They need to be removed from the United States. We need to do away with sanctuary laws protecting criminal aliens. We need to enforce Immigration Laws so we can keep people who have no right to be in the United States out of the United States. This is a murder that couldve been prevented. Jason art, one of my deep concerns here is that look, if you have these other networks that arent covering it, i wonder why they are not. This is one of the most highprofile murders out there and they dont cover it. It strikes me because it doesnt fit their political narrative. They dont want that story out there. You think im going too far . This was a case that was covered for an entire month, as people were looking for this young woman. Her father was desperate trying to find her. Every network covered it. As soon as the narrative changed, the story got dropped because it didnt fit the narrative the networks wanted to carry. Its that simple. Jason francisco, do you believe its right to abolish immigration Customs Enforcement . Are you one who says yes, we should abolish i. C. E. . Ive never said that. Jason im asking you. No. Absolutely not. I. C. E. Only does what Congress Tells them to do. Let me bring you back to the Immigration Reform. Republicans are in the majority. Why dont we pass Immigration Reform now . We couldve passed one when President Trump first took office. We are still stuck in the mud. Jason its because you cant get to 60 votes in the senate. Thats the number one issue. Francisco, donald trump went way Above And Beyond and even offered to take care of the
d. R. E. A. M. Ers and the democrats wouldnt even come to the table and have a discussion. Thats exactly what happened. Jason have not had a single vote. Lets have a vote and let the democrats jason i also sat there. I was on the Immigration Subcommittee when the democrats have the house and senate. We are talking about now. Jason i am also telling you youre trying to make a case. Put up a bill for Immigration Reform and see what happens. Jason francisco, do you believable they should build a wall . Why do you think is a republican motivation build the wall . Build it. Were going to have to legalize 100,000 mexicans to build it right anyway. Thats a darn good start. Lets get going with Immigration Reform. Lets stop talking about it. Jason okay, good, build a wall. Do you think we should build a wall and why . We should erect barriers to prevent individuals from coming into the United States illegally to stop contraband from coming into the United States illegally. You and i both investigated
incidents where there was drugs, there were dangerous materials they came over the border. We need to stop it. The fact is the border is porous. Its wide open. It needs to be closed. Jason gentlemen, thank you. Thank you both. Remember, at the end of this, you still have this horrific murder that should have never, ever happened. That doesnt mean that everybody thats here illegally is responsible. It means that person killed that person. We want to prevent those things. Those things should be at the top of our agenda in dealing with this, with the American Public wants congress to address, and it should. Raymond arroyo will be here next with more on the me too hypocrisy plus a report on why Animal Crackers are on the loose. Seen and unseen is up next. Jason it is time for our mo [ loesch ] this is superbeets and i swear by it. To make the most of your day. [ male announcer ] find out how to get a free canister with your first order. Plus bonus gifts. Call. Or go to. [ loesch ] i just mix a teaspoon into a few ounces of water. Theres the natural apple flavor or black cherry flavor. It tastes great. [ patti ] it actually is good [ wayne ] well, thats good [ shannon ] its really yummy. [ randy ] its good flavor, im surprised. [ rene ] doesnt taste like beets at all. [ david ] ill finish this, by the way. Like, i really like it [ loesch ] what if you had more energy . Imagine the possibilities. [ janette ] you feel strong and you feel healthy and you feel like you can accomplish anything. [ charisse ] if im doing the things i need to do to give me the energy i feel better not only physically, but mentally. [ katy ] when my cup runneth over, then i can be better to other people. [ loesch ] so do something good for your heart, your circulation, your blood pressure, and your energy. Youll love superbeets or your money back. [ male announcer ] call now and find out how to get a free canister with your first order. Plus free indicator strips that show how its working. And shipping is free, too. [ loesch ] this superbeets offer isnt available in stores. So call or go online right now. [ male announcer ] superbeets from humann. Order your superbeets today. Call. Or visit. Jason it is time for our seen and unseen segment where
we expose whats behind the big cultural stories of the day. There is some major hypocrisy coming from one of Harvey Weinsteins most vocal accuser. Fox news contributor and author of the will wilder series, Raymond Arroyo is here with us with the latest. Raymond, Whats Going On with this asia argento story . Asia argento is an actress who was on the forefront of the me too movement. She called out harvey weinstein, claimed he abused her. Now a 22yearold man came forward, Jimmy Bennett, to say she abused him when he was 17. She denies those allegations, and she released a statement. Ill read it to you. She said, i am deeply shocked and hurt by having read news that is absolutely false. Ive never had any sexual relationship with bennett. Today tmz released images of the two of them together in 2013 when Jimmy Bennett was 17. And ms. Argento was 37. Also they released a text Message Exchange where she tells a friend of hers, and we will put it on the screen. I had sex with him. It felt weird. I didnt know he was a minor until the shakedown letter. She paid him 380,000 working this out with anthony bourdain, with whom she was involved. Now the Los Angeles Police are investigating this and she has been bumped off the x factor in italy, which is a show shes part of. When i look at this, jason, and i look at the Catholic Church going through its own passion of sorts on these types of issues, everybodys got to be held to the same standard, no matter your gender, no matter what you believe. People need to if you are a victim of this abuse, you have to come forward. The authorities should get involved. But the broad brushing weve been seeing of men or people of a certain religious persuasion should be put on the back burner and every one of these cases should be evaluated on their merits. I hope thats what happens both in hollywood and in the Catholic Church and elsewhere. Jason its a sad story all around. There are victims, Men And Women. Harvey weinstein certainly, i hope it doesnt hurt the case against him because it sounds like one of the most horrific out there. Ive got to transition something thats a little closer to my personal heart, and that is the box for those of barnum Animal Crackers. You dont get a belly like mine by passing up on those crackers. We all grew up on barnum animals crackers. But what gives with this change . We all grew up on barnum Animal Crackers. Id bit the heads off those suckers my whole life. Now they are changing the design of the box. Used to be the boxcar with the animals on it. Jason i felt safe. They were locked up. New design. The animals are free. I will tell you where this came from. Peta. Peta, people for the ethical treatment of animals, petitioned nabisco. They said weve got to lose these animals. Heres what they said. Given the egregious cruelty inherent in circuses that use animals and the publics swelling opposition to the
exploitation of animals used for entertainment, we urged nabisco to update its packaging. Now remember, pieta is the same organization, jason, that put the Barnum And Bailey Circus Out Of Business because they were upset with the treatment of animals and featuring animals. All of this brought to mind to me what other mascots or major spokesman might need revision . Given the political correct times we are in. Jason what do you think . The first thing was the pillsbury dough boy. This poor little fella has been poked and assaulted his entire existence. It is time to reimagine. Maybe not poke the little guy anymore. Then i thought of the peanuts, mr. Peanut. You see him on all those packages. He has the cane and top hat and a monocle. He is very socially elitist, i think. Its time to put him in a baseball cap and may be sneakers. Get him down with the peeps. Thats what we need. Then i thought about Tony The Tiger. Everybody grew up with Tony The Tiger. Where are the pants on Tony The Tiger . In the me too generation, he should have trousers. That goes for the pillsbury dough boy. Jason ive never thought about that. Im sad that you brought that up. Next time i eat my frosted flakes. Ive got to tell you, that camel does not get enough credit on those crackers. Not even on the cover. A lot of wild camels running around in utah. Finally, a wisconsin tech Company Making some strange offers. What in the world . Is a Company Called three square market. They are a tech company. They want to make it easier for their employees to open doors, access their computers, get into the parking lot. So theyve implanted microchips and 80 employees have taken them up on the deal. Implanted microchips between the index finger and thumb. The ceo says they love it. The vast majority of our employees absolutely love the conveniences that having this chip in their hand really brings
to them. We did this, honestly, initially, just for fun because thats what a Technology Company does. It has evolved into a whole Nother Business which we are in development right now of an actual chip that will be powered by the human body. What we have really done a sort of made it acceptable or brought into the forefront where people are now talking about it. They are talking about it, all right. This is not something i want to try out. I dont know about you, jason. Jason how fat and lazy is america that they cant lift their badge up and put it up against the scanner . They think its fun to embed in your body a chip . It raises privacy issues, tracking issues. If they can take your Credit Card Information by swiping you in a crowd with a scanner, imagine what they can do with a micro chip in your hand. The other thing is, what happens when you quit . Do they take the hand off . What do you do with the hand . Jason if you ever changed jobs. Youre exactly right. Hey, peta, what do you think about that . I put a chip and my dog so he doesnt get lost. That could be cruelty, jason. Jason im saving the dogs life so i can find her and bring her home. Raymond, thank you. I really do appreciate it. You wont believe what a rising star in the Democratic Party said about nfl players kneeling during the National Anthem. Stay with us. Yers kneeling during the National Anthem. Stay with
beto orourke is a rising star in the Democratic Party and polls show him surprisingly close in a race against ted cruz for one of texas seats in the senate. On the campaign trail, he was recently asked if he thought it was disrespectful for nfl players to kneel during the National Anthem. My short answer is no. I dont think its disrespectful. Peaceful, nonviolent protests, including taking a knee at a Football Game to point out that black men, unarmed black teenagers, unarmed. Black children, unarmed. Are being killed at a frightening level right now, including by members of Law Enforcement. Without accountability and without justice. They take a knee to bring our attention and focus of this problem to ensure that we fix it. Thats why they are doing it and i can think of nothing more american than to peacefully stand up or take a knee for your
right any time, anywhere, any place. Jason nothing more patriotic. The left is praising congressman orourke on social media for those comments, but im not sure thats going to play well with the voters in the lone star state. We are talking about texas. Joining me now to discuss this is Fox News ContributorKevin Jackson and civil rights attorney brian watkins. Brian, i want to start with you. Why do you think americans go and watch football . Why do they watch the nfl . They enjoy it. Its a game. Its entertainment. Its enjoyable to watch. Absolutely. Jason you do it as an escape, right . Do you think you want to kick off the game by having political statements . How does that strike you . You know, i dont think you would be saying the same thing if, for example, if Network Executives and movie executives said to their employees, actors and actresses, hey, i dont want you talking about that me too Movement Type stuff. We dont want to bring that issue up. We are about entertainment, so dont talk about it. I think people would have a problem with that. I dont understand why people have a problem with young black africanamerican men who have the spotlight, simply taking a knee, they are not asking for a soap box at the 50yard line and give a speech, disrupt the game. Youre talking about not participating in the anthem by silently, quietly taking a knee . Jason do you understand how offensive it is to the Men And Women who have served this country . Is the 2 minutes we take out in a bipartisan way and were honoring the flag, our country, honoring our troops, trying to come together. Remember when barack obama said we are not the red states. Were not the blue states. We are the United States. Thats patriotic. Even a republican like me thought that was a great statement. We do need to become united. The one chance we have to be united, no matter where are on the field or political side of the aisle, thats the thing you do, try to disturb that and distract from that . So lets cover it from the
beto orourke point of view. First of all, its an insult. What they didnt talk about was the references he made to blacks and the oppression that blacks faced many, many years ago. Decades ago at the hands of his own party, the democrats. Oh, by the way, what orourke also failed to mention is that all the things hes talking about with the reason why blacks are kneeling in the nfl has to do with what . The socalled lack of civil rights by police in big cities who are run by democrats throughout the entire political process. So whats interesting is that this is a problem for democrats from the past and its a problem for democrats right now thats been created by democrats. So he wants to talk about the kneelers, if these guys really believed in kneeling, why didnt Colin Kaepernick kneel during the Barack Obama Administration . It was happening then. When did Colin Kaepernick help any black in any city, what has
he done prior to the kneeling to help any of the blacks are being killed in crazy numbers every weekend . Its a disingenuous movement for orourke to harken back to the days of civil rights as if these selfindulgent jason let me get you back in. Selfindulgent multimillionaires to want to kneel and act as if blacks are facing these issues every day, patently ridiculous. I see the protests and the kneeling before the National Anthem which i think is disrespectful to the flag, our country, and to our troops. Thats my take on it. I think the majority of the polling would show it. Also see people in play or saying hey, im not going to go to the white house. Im not going to interact. I think the opposite should be true. They should be saying i would actually like to meet with donald trump. I would actually like to meet with republicans. Dont you think that would be more productive . It could be productive. Thats what america is all about, the debate. Highlighting and jason why during a Football Game . Why do you do it during the Football Game . Because thousands and hundreds of thousands of people watch. When you have the spotlight on you. Not anymore. Its their responsibility jason i do think the ratings are going down . You are finding more people than you are getting to your cause. Nfl players, when i was in congress, came and met with me and trey gowdy and john ratcliffe, and we listened and talked about the need for criminal justice reform. It was productive. What you are doing is offending people by kneeling and disrespecting the flag. Jason, let me say one thing. Many nfl players jason brian. Kevin, i will give you the last word. You should not be offended by someone doing a Silent Protest. Its a nonviolent Silent Protest that really offends and hurts no
one to highlight an issue a majority of people. Jason how does it hurt somebody . Why not let them do it . They can do whatever they want, and the public has responded i think that the chips fall where they may but i also want to give a shout out to the players who are standing for the flag and the anthem because they are unheralded. Unfortunately. Its a very small minority of Young Players who dont want to stand for the flag. The majority of Football Players get it because they understand that this is a game. Jason thats right, and theres a time in a place for it, and those couple minutes when we honor the flag is not the time to do it. I want to be part of that solution. When i was in congress, i was working on criminal justice reform. Its a legitimate issue. Done at the wrong time in the wrong way. Thats my take on it. The only time in places when the spotlight is on you. Jason people have plenty of spotlight. They have millions of dollars. They can have the spotlight any time. When they are invited to the white house and disrespect the presidency of the United States. You know how many times i got invited the white house . I didnt want to go there because barack obama was the president. I did out of respect. I wanted to engage in dialogue. Thats what you do. You dont run away. Given the opportunity to go to the white house and then you dont go. I think thats wrong. I am over time. I have to leave it here. We got to talk about Whats Going On in San Francisco, because leave it to San FranciscoTo Trailblaze a new way to undermine i. C. E. Details after this. I am totally blind. And non24 can make me show up too early. Or too late. Or make me feel like im not really there. Talk to your doctor, and call 8442342424. Stay connected while you move with the best Wifi Experience and twohour appointment windows. Click, call or visit a store today. Jason apparently being a sanctuary state isnt enough for california. The New York Times has a new piece out about the San FranciscoRapid Response network, a group that maintains a 24hour hotline to tip off Illegal Immigrants about i. C. E. Patrols and raids. Wow, theres being soft on illegal immigration and then theres San Francisco. Joining me for reaction, a republican strategist and an immigration attorney in san diego. I want to ask, do you think this puts Law Enforcement, i. C. E. Officers in danger . I dont think it puts lawenforcement or i. C. E. Officers in danger. Its good to have community oversight. What would be nice to see his body cameras on the i. C. E. Officers. But this is a step to that direction. This might force them to do that because theres going to be people documenting Whats Going On and hopefully it stays peaceful. Jason if you know in advance that i. C. E. Is forming. Ive been on these raids, okay . Ive been out there and done it. They usually form in a parking lot and then they will walk in on an area and surround the house, do some surveillance before. Theres time to give them a heads up. Dont you think that thats going to put Law Enforcement in harms way . Anytime youre chasing after a fugitive, you are in harms way. Jason does this make it worse or better . It depends of those people jason there is only one answer. You cant say theyre going to get tipped off. Jason theres a hotline. Theres a 24hour hotline. Thats the point. People to show up and make sure they are doing their job. Not necessarily to tip the people off. Jason its a tip line. Thats what its called. Whats your take . Not only does it put law
enforcement in danger, it puts american citizens in danger. It puts the people of San Francisco in danger. If you have a hotline or a snitch line and you see lawenforcement coming, what youre doing is two things for your encouraging people to break the law and youre also intimidating the people that youre supposed to serve. Because now they are going to feel compelled to come forward if they see something and try to tell on lawenforcement coming in their community. Its a bad precedent. This is something as a political practitioner, i would love for them to keep doing it. It will help us run the country. As an american citizen, its appalling. They should remove it. If they want to do a hotline, try to do a hotline for the millions jason do you think this is going to move the situation . What do you tell the spouse of an i. C. E. Officer. How do you look her or him in the eye and say your loved one is going on this raid tonight. By the way, the target of who they are going after is going to be tipped off. What do you say that person . One, you cant guarantee that the target is going to be tipped off. The community might be but that doesnt mean the target will be. When it comes down to is a frustration in the Immigration Community in general of nothing moving forward. Nothing is happening. Whether you are on the side of the, undocumented, or you want Immigration Reform. Your antiillegal immigrant. Jason donald trump has an offer on the table to Chuck Schumer and the democrats never responded to in terms of he went further than i wouldve ever gone in of dealing with the daca kids and all that. Eric, the last word here. They are frustrated so they get to break the law . The only thing i disagree with jason i dont think its necessarily breaking the law. They have a First Amendment right to do this. It is in operating the law. If you are breaking the law. If you are informing and telling lawenforcement agents. If that talk about Immigration Reform and say were going to do something about it and then snitch on lawenforcement officials put them in danger and
puts americans in danger. Jason gentlemen, thank you. Ive got to cut it off. Well be right back. To cut it. Well be right. ll be right