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middle it's because they are going for massive and maximum destruction and maximum hurt. >> martha: where this is headed we will see a sad day really for so many of these is on-campus and you listen to katie who had to leave her dorm room and move off campus and in with family it just horrible. >> martha: so sad, thank you so much great to have you both with us today thank you gentlemen. >> thank you martha. >> martha: the biden camps new efforts to debunk claims that the president is a elderly man with a poor memory in the words of robert her so many of you who have served your country honorably, whether it's two years, four years, or thirty-two years, like myself. one of the benefits that we as a country give you as a veteran is your eligibility for a va loan. not 80 percent