alexandra minna stern is professor of american culture at the university of michigan and author of ‘proud boys and the white ethnostate — how the alt—right is warping the american imagination'. thank you very much forjoining us. just help us understand, for those who might not be very familiar with this, what exactly are us militia groups like the probable ways —— proud boys? these are far right extremists that should be classified as domestic terrorists. they are pa rt as domestic terrorists. they are part of a wave of violent extremism that we've seen rising in the country over the past several years and with greater intensification really over the past year, leading us really over the past year, leading us into the 2020 election. some members of these groups, the 13 men that were arrested, one of them