herd immunity strategy, and i quote, "is about calling the heard of the sick and disabled," and he says it is grotesque. i know. i saw that. it was intensely dismaying because of course, what our declaration does is put forward a proposal of how to protect those who are vulnerable. so i think it is really quite deflamatory. all right, ok. that is your response to him. evonne, i hope you won't mind me saying but i know that you are over 60, i will not divulge your exact age, but where do you stand on this? if there is no vaccine, is that going to affect the kind of day—to—day activities that you do? i would continue to be living pretty much as i live at the moment, i have some suspicions about herd immunity because at the moment, people are being reinfected, so i'm not too sure how that works either. i'm just hoping that somewhere somebody finds some sort of solution to help and allow