i want. i think it's not going to happen. if she's there, she's there. if she's not, she's not. it's just -- i don't know. >> here's the question, john avalon, if it's such a nonstory, why does it keep coming up? >> well, i think in part because it's a bright, shiny object. you know, these two marquee names. people like moving names around, but it really -- you know, it would be one thing if this was after the election, a slow news story. we've got real drama, realtime, election 2010, an epic midterm, but today everyone's speculating about a 2012 vp nominee. >> well, because bob woodward said, it must be true. he listens to everyone -- >> so you're saying it's true? >> no, i don't think -- >> no, but he says it's on the table. well, whose table? that's the question. i think it's outside chatter, not inside chatter. >> well, i think there's something that rings true here in the stories that have circulated out of washington for a while among people, that there is this distance between biden