security. so people in high positions of government, whether it be federal, state or local, are vulnerable to this type of thing, and it is something -- the threats are constant. it's just whether or not someone actually takes it upon themselves to carry it out. fortunately, it doesn't happen any more often than it does. >> tom fuentes, stand by if you would. just recapping, there has been a shooting in tucson, arizona, at a grocery store. there was an event that was taking place. congresswoman gabrielle giffords was meeting with constituents, it was made public. people would have known she was there. she is a democrat from the eighth district, and this wassed first of such a meeting that was taking place since the new congress has been sworn in. and there are conflicting accounts. we do know that there are fatalities. we know that from eyewitnesss who have been on the scene. and one of those who has been on the scene is jason pekau. we spoke to him earlier. let's listen again to what he