watching pornographic images on a screen so what we want to let people snow there's help and there's hope. there's ways that you can kind of battle through this. you can tackle this issue, but it's not going to go anywhere if we just remain in quiet and in secret so we're trying to get churches just to say, hey, we're okay to talk about it, and we want to help people kind of on that journey out of porn or out of any type of sexual issues, or any sin, as a matter of fact, and we want to be that support for those people. >> craig gross -- >> i think talking about it is good, too. talking about it ask good also. >> and ron is coming to church on sunday. >> ron, are you a church goer? ron, you're coming. that's the deal. >> sorry, guys. got to go. ron jeremy and craig gross, there we go, thank you both so, so much. something i never thought i'd be talking about on tv. if you want to read more about porn sunday, check out cnn's belief blog, our home for all