none of their people get to collectively bargain. what caused that? it had nothing to do with collective bargaining just like the wisconsin problem has nothing to do with collective bargaining. about it's his reaction alization as a way to bust uns a unions and at that time rights of nurses, teachers, firefighter, emts, take away their right to come together to bargain for a middle class life. >> i agree, i just want to make it clear. governor perry pre-tented there was no deficit. they're facing a $25 billion deficit, i believe. it's all smoke and mirrors down there. i want to can back to something you said p this deficit is not a consequence of the collective bargaining, it's a consequence of the recession and a consequence of what was created by a bunch of folks on wall street who created a bubble that explod exploded. so how is it two years later that we're sitting politically with the unions being the scapegoat? you're the head of the largest