several days, contacting all the members of the press team here for the libyan government and then suddenly one night we got a knock on our door and they said you have to come straight away. we got our things together and within a few minutes we were rushed into this palace behind tripoli's green square and rather quickly the leader and his entourage came, and it was quite a surreal experience but yes he was much calmer than you might expect. >> did you get any sense that this is a guy that is ready to fight for the death or maybe down the road he could leave libya and save his life? >> reporter: well, the sense i got in the interview is he is going to fight until the death and he told us and i questioned him, a long time, about 15 minutes myself, and i asked him if he would leave interview as many people thought he should do so and he said absolutely not. where would he go and libya is