trend lines that predates the recession, predates president obama. so what we're saying is how do we then change those trend lines because we've got to do that long term. otherwise income and equality is going to get worse and worse over the next years. >> i think that's an important issue that we think about. >> all right, we got -- half a minute left. are we going to have a government shutdown? is there a compromise possible not just on the short-term issue over the next nine months? when are we going deal with the big four, medicaid, medicare, social security, and defense spending? >> you know, those are two different issues. it does feel like compromise is within reach. i think get something bipartisan compromise is important so that we don't in the midst of being fiscally responsible cut the very things that we need to get the economy growing and competitive. on the longer run stuff of entitlements, there we got to hold hands and do it all together if it's going to be done. >> all right. is that -- are you going to convene everybody to hold hands together and chew granola?