form of enslavement, and quote, not acceptable on its soil. i am joined by a writer for the blog, muslim matters, who is against the ban. he's in albuquerque. and a columnist who wants to see the ban extended everywhere. she's joining me from washington. welcome to you both. >> thank you. >> let me begin, if i might, by quoting the president sarkozy of france in his justification for the law. it's kind of a remarkable statement. he says, and i quote, this is the president of france, the burqa is not a religious symbol. it's a sign of enslavement of debaseness. i want to say this solemn ne. the burqa will not be welcomed on the territory of the french republic. we cannot step in our country, women imprisoned behind a mask, deprived of all social life of their identity. so, mona, let me start with you. you want to extend this ban across the world. do you agree with president sarkozy, that merely because