with donald trump after all of this broke. how did that interview go, john? >> wolf, it was pretty contentious in part. you know donald trump well. you know he's big in real estate and big in reality television and big in self-promotion. he got off his helicopter this morning and he was bragging and pounding his chest saying i got the president to do this. no one else could get the president to do this. as donald trump has risen in polls among perspective republican candidates by focusing on this so-called birther debate, he's said a number of things that don't stand up to the fact check and so when i sat down with him earlier today, he did do bragging but i also tried to press him on a few points. let's listen a little. >> you said the president should release this -- >> you raised this. >> i didn't call a press conference earlier this week. >> every time i sit down with the press all they want to talk about the birth certificate. i got him to do something that nobody else could get him to do. >> you raise this issue of his