taxation doesn't define -- not a free market value. >> as will just pointed out. here is my question, mark. what happens? really michele bachmann was the head of the tea party movement in congress. she was a tea party darling. those candidates who have become tea party darling are not doing what you're talking about. mitt romney wasn't the tea party darling in this thing. >> if you look at what he does, he's about fiscal responsibility, smaller government and free markets. those are valleys of the tea party. the issue is can he kent to the trust issue. the idea which has been in the mainstream media being a liberal leaning governor. he had 800 vetos in his time there. he cleaned up the utah international governance of the olympics. certainly when we look at his platform and what he promises to do in terms of cutting overall tax rates and being able to reduce the size of government, the question is can he connect to the trust issue within the tea party. now for me i think it's very practical.