trumps hate. i believe it still does, it's just going to take us a little bit longer. we have to find ways and believe in those who voted trump and hope that love wins out. >> charles, you know, donald trump did a good job of bringing out the white working class voter more than bush, romney and mccain. could hillary clinton have done more to bring them to her side? >> i guess that's one option, right? one strategy would have been to focus more attention there. another strategy would have been bring out more of her own base. a lot of people just stayed home. if you look at the raw members, he got fewer votes than romney, he got fewer votes than mccain. a lot of people simply stayed home. they just didn't like either one of the candidates, they were turned off by this race, that's a big thing. and when you have more people who would have otherwise supported her stayed home than him, this is the result that you get. >> how do you feel today? >> this is what -- this is the