brexit, same thing, people aren't picking up on it, but there's going to be a crowd of people showing up that aren't coming out in polling. and she wasn't able to turn out part of her key course. and that was the difference. >> i think there's often a zeal at the end of a campaign to make the person who lost the race into everything about their campaign and everything about that person wrong. now that's simply not accurate ever, and it's not in this case. let's remember, the country was split. neither was going to win overwhelmingly. did secretary clinton as a candidate have problems? absolutely. but she was also -- and this is kind of irrefutable, the most accomplished, prepared, ready to be president person who has ever run. and i think although we can say all these negative things about her, it's important to note, she ran, she worked hard, and took a risk to make history. >> which is not helpful to the democratic party to think about