what's interesting here, he came out to the cameras and he's talking about fighting for u.s. taxpayers. it's hard to go against something like that. >> yeah, but i think what people need to know is that u.s. air force one is like the most sophisticated aircraft in the world. there's a great piece on cnnpolitics.com from reporters who have flown on the plane. i think what we have to communicate is that boeing isn't just throwing this number out there. the pentagon and white house has put specifications in place that require the costs to be what they are. they can be lower, but it's not something that boeing can do without permission. whether or not they will actually get to a number that trump will agree with, we'll have to see. >> and see if that number is question, that $4 billion. >> yes. >> and the plane, if you lower the specifications -- >> is it safe? >> yeah. >> eugene scott, thank you. that story, the