sides will be digging up everything they have. the republicans and president trump will be trying to portray him as someone who would be very good for the country, not just succeed antonin scalia and his style of conservatism, but represent the american public. whereas the other side is going to probably paint him as -- him or if it's just hardiman as narrowly as possible he's not fair for consumer rights, not fair for employee rights. he keeps people, either individual could probably be accused of narrowly construing the right to bring civil rights cases to the supreme court. so, this is -- tomorrow will be the big day as this all really rolls out in a more substantive way. >> my understanding and correct me if i'm wrong, but my understanding is that neither gorsuch nor hardiman have ever weighed in directly on abortion as opposed to the third individual, judge prior, who is no longer on the list of potential nominees as far as we