i'm hopeful we can deal with the issue generally of improving border security without demonizing cities like new york city that regularly send $25 billion more to the federal government than we get back if return. >> but do you think that cities like new york, los angeles, san francisco, others, there are dozens of other so-called sanctuary cities have a responsibility to pay attention to federal law? >> we certainly have a responsibility to act consistent with federal law when it's humane. but also to do the right thing on behalf of the constituents that people in the city of new york, los angeles, san francisco, are charged to protecting. and by penalizing and forcing cities like new york to enforce draconian aspects of the law in way that would undocumented flaem families not felons is not consistent with protecting the safety and well-being of the people of new york and these other places. i'm pleased that the federal court so far has declared what