readily available. >> i think it's fair to say that he is not somebody who spent the amount of time thinking about what he would do with the job or what it would actually be like as we have seen previous presidents do. but i do think you have to concede that they all come in a little bit cowed by what happens. >> one other part of the past, david, that president trump doesn't seem to want to let go of and rejoices in repeatedly is the election, from november 8, he recounted the story on stage today in front of the nra, apparently during in of these media interviews, he's pulled out the electoral map of the united states to show the red counties, the people who voted for him. he did it in a discussion with reuters when he was talking about china. what do you make of this? >> i believe, if i'm not mistaken, that interview took