see, i think the fundamental issue here are the resources. i don't want to give you exactly the numbers, but it's about half the resources in this bill that were in obamacare. now, i can tell you that we can do with less resources, but you can't do it overnight and you cannot give people a $3,000 or $4,000 health insurance policy. you know where they're going to be? they're going to be living in the emergency rooms again. >> reporter: okay, that perspective is shared by a number of senators, rob portman, ohio senator in the senate republican working group in this. dean heller from nevada, shelly moore caputo from virginia, lisa murkowski from alaska. all of these states have very important parochial issues when it comes to medicaid expansion. then you have people concerned about the structure of the tax credit, very conservative members concerned that the house bill didn't go far enough when it came to trying to attack and dismantle obamacare regulations. all of this is going to need to be addressed in a major way, and that means, kate, to your