british security forces have foiled 18 operations. since the attack in manchester in march, basically the security forces has foiled six attacks. so the reality is you need good intelligence, you need to be proactive, and you need to work as local communities. the worst thing you can do is to alienate local muslim communities like president trump in his rhetoric and his ban against muslims coming from the world to the united states. >> peter, talk about the politics of this going forward. nader pointed out this will put a lot of pressure on the british government, but what will that mean? at the end of the day, what can you do when you have somebody who decides to take a van and use it to find a place where people are having a good time? again, it strikes me that this is so low tech that it's not