show trial in north korea. so, first of all, our thoughts are with the family. but, absolutely. you know, first of all, there were a lot of complaints about the obama administration not seeing their interests, the united states' interests, as being totally aligned with the interests of families who had family members being held hostages in places like north korea. that's happened with other administrations, as well, but i think it was pretty pronounced in the obama administration and you certainly see the anguish. and he not only criticized president obama, he praised president trump. >> i think this is something that the trump administration has actually done fairly well and sort of quietly and competently. there was an egyptian american aid worker who was in prison for three years in egypt who was able to come home in april. he's done a public event with leopoldo's wife. >> at marco rubio's request. >> with plamarco rubio to bring some light to that. and obama was very quiet on