i don't understand it. things are said that are not true or the president believes what he's saying when he says it even though it's later proved to be not true. it goes well beyond politics. he told us a couple weeks ago, the air traffic control is broken and not working. yesterday we had a good two weeks. it's very puzzling. it does not serve him well. >> on that last point, not on air traffic specifically, do you get the sense the president, based on what he is saying about the investigation and other things, understands the gravity of the situation? i'm not saying he's in trouble, he may not be. when there's a special council, it makes for a serious situation. >> as i listen to the reporting this morning on cnn, the metaphore that came to mind is bull in a china shop. words matter. careening around inside the