things aren't going on in our country. we have a free and open dialogue for everybody to see. everybody knows the president has an adversarial -- >> what if the president is standing here -- >> based on a lie, we're not fake news, mike. >> that's not what i'm saying. what i'm saying -- of course, i'm not saying that. what i'm saying is it's a known fact that the president has an adversarial relationship with the press and he talks about it all the time, he tweets about it. >> right, based on a lie. based on a lie. the lie is we're fake news. >> you weren't asking me about that, you were asking whether or not it's okay if the president should talk about this on foreign soil. yes, it is. of course, you can talk about anything on foreign soil. we're an open society. we're got going to hide things just because we're overseas. >> even if the president is giving something that's false, even if he is purveying -- >> now you're getting into the substance of what i said. you asked whether or not it's okay to talk about -- >> that's the premise behind the question, why is he talking about something that's false and giving false information to everyone overseas? he's basically -- he's just lying to people overseas saying, you know, the media's fwake,