jinping, the leader of china is the head of the army, but there is a way in which i think they operate separately here and they can't get away with that anymore. >> we have nukes on the brain, for obvious reasons. but you on this blue ribbon panel on biodefense, the idea that a bad actor could release some sort of bug, some sort of pandemic. is north korea part of that threat or where do you see the biggest worries? >> it could be. i don't have intelligence today to tell you that they are. i mean this commission is co-chaired by tom ridge, the former secretary of homeland security. we've been at it now for a couple of years, we've issued a couple of reports. this is focused on the biothreat two ways. one, a bioterrorist attack. and we know that isis and groups like that are working on the capability for a bioterrorist attack. of course, we have been attack with anthrax after 9/11. and the second, which is even more potentially disastrous, is