make my point through economic argument. but the reality of it is we've got a president that doesn't want to listen to reason, doesn't want to hear the economic argument. he wants to rule through fear. and through intimidation and that simply isn't presidential. that's not american. that's not what this country is about. we are a country of broad shoaled rtz and big hearts. we welcome the stranger. we put people to work. these individuals were vetted not once, not twice but three times. none of them have committed a crime. they have done nothing but contribute to the greatest country in the world. they willingly came forward and gave their information to the government and this president betrayed them. it doesn't need to get any fancier. we're not splitting atoms here. >> this is an unbelievable conversation. >> patty hasn't had a chance to speak yet. i said this is no long ardog