>> the fact that those e-mails were -- >> well, and that they were weaponized. >> what do you think? >> i'm just unconvinced by the whole tour and i think many -- frankly, many times i think how the heck did donald trump become president and then hillary reminds me how bad the two choices were, and i don't think she's grappling with what happened here, that doesn't mean there aren't many reasons, but she is a principle reason that she lost. >> and she has said that. she said she takes responsibility and -- >> but. >> for everything, i think she's right to point out that there was russian interference, and it probably did cost her votes. we don't know how many, but when you lose an election by 77,000 votes, which ultimately that came down to, there are a lot of different reasons she lost that vote. and she's the candidate. she says she takes responsibility. i think she has ever right to be doing, writing this book, doing this tour. >> no one questions her -- >> and breathing in public.