in administration. there are so many things that are just not true. first off, rex tillerson didn't get this job because of a lobbyist from exxon. that's just a flatout lie. there were several people around donald trump who said they liked his leadership. >> not true. >> let me finish. i let you say all the stuff you said which was just not accurate. but when he got this job, he got this job because he was looking for someone that had connections around the world and that was respected well and understood management style that the president wanted back in the state department. that's one of the reasons why he got the job. the second thing is, the idea when we open the segment that somehow rex tillerson and this beef between him and the president is affecting what's going on with health care reform is absurd. rex tillerson has nothing to do with obamacare. and if you want to know why obamacare's having issues, look at the republican leadership who have decided that they don't want to get things done in the senate on this. we always knew this was going to be a tight vote, one or two people defecting and that's the end of the bill. that's always been true.