>> who bears the lion's share of the blame in your opinion? is it the president for going after corker or is it corker for doing this or some combination thereof? >> i think there's combination blame in all of these kinds of feuds. look, these people are supposed to be one big, happy family. now, grant it, some of these people are like cousins who've never met but have to sit next to each other at thanksgiving dinner. but at some juncture, we all have to sit here and eat together and be civil until it's over for the purpose of satisfying the voters who sent the republicans to run washington d.c. so that's the issue. >> it's trump's fault. because donald trump -- this is obviously a pattern. i don't know of bob corker having a vendetta or feud with anybody else, maybe it's happened. but what we do know is that donald trump, it -- he goes from person to person. he's always fighting one person. usually not all at the same time. he goes from enemy to enemy. so i think he's to blame. >> i think that's part of the problem. it's the sort of cascade of enemies. this cascade of scandals.