murray at the white house. >> >> reporter: good morning. john kelly making an extraordinary appearance. he talked about something he rarely 1350eks publicly about, which is losing his own son in afghanistan and provided a window into the advice he gave to the president about how to talk to family members of a soldier who paid the ultima the sacrifice. >> he said to me, what do i say? i said to him, sir, there's nothing you can do to lighten the burden on these families. but let me tell you what i tell them, and let me tell you what my best friend, joe dunphy told me, because he was my casualty officer. he said, kel, he was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed. he knew what he was getting into by joining the -- that 1%. >> now kelly offered up this