that you don't get stuck in court defending over and over again and appealing over and over again. i think they have made plenty of mistakes on that front. you're seeing that sort of play out. we'll see with this one as well. >> right. what's the argument for sending home haitians who came here after an earthquake, seeking relief after an earthquake? is that it was meant to be temporary? >> it was named temporary so there is an argument it should have an end at some point. i'm not sure i've heard an argument from trump himself why this is necessary on a security front. >> the other issue here, rebecca and neera, the president has asked the supreme court to take a look at -- let the travel ban 3.0, if you want to call it that, to take effect immediately while it is looking into this in effect. i'm not going to treat either of you as lawyers here or supreme court specialists. is that something the supreme court is likely to do in light of the remaining questions about it? >> i would say most of the courts have ruled against these travel bans and i think in part because they've seen it's --