but when you consider and put this in perspective in relation to the number of people diagnose of opioids or automobile accidents, for example, in comparison to the relatively low level of casualties from these kind of attacks, it makes you wonder about putting hyperventilation in context. >> yeah, so you talked about the men and women of the fbi who were working on this and worked tirelessly on these situations and other things. and remember last week, the president criticized him. the president and his aides have been relentless trying to discredit robert mueller. right-wing media is on the attack. and just last week, we saw republican lawmakers attacking mueller at the donald trump jr. testimony. is this a strategy to undermine what's going on here? the mueller investigation? >> i think it is. first of all, i think this is a regrettable characteristic of president trump, where he will attack people who have -- or