but if he wants a physical wall like we've all heard about during the course of the campaign, quote, that is ridiculous, and they're not going to go for that. and i think at the end of the day this is going to come down to will democrats vote for a wall on the border. and i don't know if they're there yet, anderson. >> and also the president talked about today comprehensive immigration reform. i'm not clear he's using that phrase in the way it is normally used. because that's used in talking about a pathway to citizenship or talking about the 11 million people who are undocumented here. >> that's been an issue for the past few years. the president was throwing around this phrase comprehensive immigration reform as part of this phase two. you do daca first, border security first and these other issues later like a pathway to