what he says. it is the first time we've had this leak out this way and it's probably the first person who said it in front of a political opponent and critic in dick durbin. >> this is one of the unusual things about this president is he views his presidency in part as a gigantic tv show where he is the producer and the viewer because if nothing is going on, he'll stir the pot and see everyone's heads blow up and enjoy hate-watching it, and it's definitely true that those comments have emboldened democrats. we wouldn't be where we are tonight without those comments. i do, though, think this is a big risk for chuck schumer. running in your direction e is clearly for midterms. why risk disturbing that when actually your caucus is, if you look at it, objectively forcing a shutdown of the government? and codifying daca is definitely very popular. shutting down the government to try to force the codification of daca, as a cnn poll showed today, is not necessarily very