some people think that puerto rico takes advantage of the states, but it's a two way street. you know? this is my friend laura. >> anthony: hi how are you? tony. >> laura: nice to meet you. >> anthony: like everyone here, hermes and his fellow journalist laura moscoso are trying to make sense of this situation that seems kafka-esque at best. >> anthony: so dumb question. what is puerto rico? it's not a state it's kind of like a colony but it's not. >> laura: it's not kind of, it is. >> hermes: it's an unincorporated territory. >> anthony: unincorporated territory? >> hermes: yeah, so you know what's that? >> anthony: what is that? >> hermes: we're still trying to figure out sometimes. >> anthony: would you say the majority of puerto ricans consider themselves americans, or do they consider themselves puerto ricans, or both? >> laura: i think that they