you can't walk back saying, hey, if you get me a bill that addresses buying age for anybody purchasing a firearm and he'll sign it into law, i don't think you can walk that back. >> it seems like that's what's going on, though. how do you negotiate this? what do you think your best chance is to move forward and get something done, or do you think the nra is going to get what it wants? >> i don't think the nra is going to get what they want in this case. the president has been very firm to this point, largely saying we're not going to be frightened of the nra in this respect. we're going to go out there and do what we think is right based upon saving lives as it relates to the fbi, as it relates to every state agency, as it relates to firearms, mental illness and everything else surrounding this issue. i knew it was going to be a huge debate. that's why i was calling right up front to say, president trump, let's apply the travel ban you did, a temporary hold to what's going on with the sale of