tradition and the history and they are proud of the fact that their agents have been having a reputation for the truth and they count on that going to trial testimony, and count on that as basically the way of doing business and that is why we have a pushback when there is a move by the department to have the agents using tape recorders to record suspect interviews, because we have counted on the agents to tell us what went on, but in the case, it is a man who is essentially now they are saying that he said something out of line. i agree that we need to know what the ig report says and withhold the total judgment, but thinking of the things that have gone on here in the administration and the president's son-in-law receiving the presidential daily briefing when he had failed to disclose business relations time and time again on his form, and on the background form, and that a lack of candor, but that did not stop anybody from thinking that he should have the highest security access to anybody in the country, so when you are looking at this and the fact that andy