that these recordings, since no one knows what they are, is something that will be in the hands of the fbi. and that's really going to be the focus of this court hearing today. >> all right, kara, thank you very much. terrific information there. let's try to understand it some more. joining me is kendall coffey, thank you for being with us. on the subject of the tapes, a couple of questions. if they exist, number one, wow. and number two, a guarantee they would be admissible or useable in an investigation? >> well, it's a double wow in terms of the existence of tapes. and with cohen's reputation as something of a recording artist who was taping a lot of people, that could be a major focus of the fbi's early interest. i don't think too many of them are going to be privileged unless he was recording donald trump, assuming he was recording third parties, there's not going to be a privilege issue there. and we all know that very few things are as probative, except perhaps for video, than an audio