30 years doesn't stand up. first of all, we have no way to even believe that michael cohen could be facing any jail time let alone 30 years but what do you make of this, that this lawyer who handled his two divorces, so i don't know why the president was calling him, but whatever, he says this kind of thing about michael cohen who matters so much to the president. your take? >> my take is i think that if you've been observing the trump/cohen relationship even in recent weeks with the stormy daniels swirl around his head before the raids, you have seen a two-way street of public embrace. come to mar-a-lago and we'll have dinner and we'll do this publicly and i'll show people we're still together even though you're mired in this controversy. michael cohen saying i would jump off a budding before i would flip on him. the relationship publicly has remained rock solid and now of course there is real concern inside the white house about what the federal investigators are going to be able to find and