i'm sorry, go ahead, symone. >> i mean no vetting whatsoever. this isn't rocket science. one could argue, fine, trump people are new, but there are processes in place. this isn't the first time that someone has to nominate a v.a. secretary or cabinet secretary. you do a google search, a background check. i was on an e-mail chain the other day about a project i'm working on and two people were in an ad for all of 20 seconds and we vetted them because that is in fact what you do. so the fact that the white house can't get it together -- it's extremely concerning. >> and looks to be deceiving. rex tillerson looked like a good secretary of state. michael cohen looks like a good consigliary. >> as far as a 25-year-old, i don't have that body. who am i to talk? sources telling cnn basically everyone but trump