it's hard because i just -- just substitute george w. bush, barack obama. i was going to say -- >> when barack obama did this, what did we do? when barack obama did this, what did we do? oh, he didn't. >> he would never. and, don, i would urge people because i did this. go and either listen to the audio of donald trump's interview or read the transcript. i wrote something on our site about it. there's so many non sequiturs, so many times where i was -- reminded of that description where james comey -- it's sort of like a monologue, it just washes over you, washes over you. you don't know where to jump in, when to jump in. he's just talking at those three people. that is not an interview in any sense of the word. >> what do you think, ryan? >> i think it was a 30-minute rant. you know when you see a lot of reporting, you see a lot of daily reporting that is off of conversations trump has with his