this is -- like i told you, this was a proctology appointment and i really don't want to do that very often. >> and you talk about, they conducted themselves, they weren't kind, but they were professional. did it seem like there was any kind of a strategy that they used in talking to you? you know, you talked about watching cop shows, good cop/bad cop, befriending you, however it might be. >> yeah, i think it was three bad cops. but, actually, no, with you know, it's interesting, because they. didn't -- there's a stakeout where the media is all day, and they asked us to pick us up at a hotel nearby and drive us in through a private entrance. and then when it was time to leave, they asked me to go ahead and get in the car and drive out that way, as well. they're very focused on their own security there. they don't want somebody going to the stakeout downstairs, for example, with a backdrop of the building that they're in. and i don't think, really, anybody has ever done that. any of the people who have been interviewed there. it's, you know, listen, it's a very nondescript, very ugly government office with a bunch of locks on the door.