hats. they already got the message. >> peter, you worked for the george w. bush administration. would this have happened in any other republican administration? >> no, it wouldn't have happened in any other administration, republican, democratic or anything else. this is unique. look, there are elements of hatred in american society, but they've always been on the fringes in recent modern american history and presidents have always tried to keep them there. the difference with this president is he's involving these people. they're enthusiastic about donald trump. you have to take a step back here. that is the thread of not just trump's presidency but really his political life. the thing that brought him to the political stage was the birther issue. >> saying the former president was not born in this country. >> that's right.