safe? and why would a senator, we understand if they don't let the media in or something, but why not allow a senator into the detention centers to talk to the kids to have a better understanding of what needs to be done. >> i don't know why they wouldn't let in a senator. as i mentioned before, this entire process has been extraordinarily opaque. what we are seeing on the border, in addition to the heart break and anguish of the families is massive confusion and chaos. there's been no explanation given. i think that what you are describing is part of this pattern. i don't know if it's a lack of a plan or i don't know if processes are hidden. i don't know what that is. i do think this is why we all have to demand more transparency and immediately. >> we have had a lot of people say there doesn't seem to be a plan. a senior republican said that to cnn a couple days ago. i want to review the president's