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you sense in the country already that it has been a long time since 2008 when the country was really repulsed by the consequencing of the war. it was 10, 9, 8 years ago. people forget what it is like to read four, five, or six american names killed in a middle eastern war. iraq was tough, wait until you try iran. they're much more powerful, iran is already working to destabilize the region. my point is that we need to be very sensitive to the fact that this president that doesn't have a very sophisticated sense of international relations regards war as a way to solve political problems. >> what are the conversations that happened. do you start preparing or talking to the president about this? do you ignore it, what happens

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