and so, there are more of these cases where people say if you send me back, i will be killed than there were before. >> right. here's the thing. if you're very, very generous, take the moral considerations off the table. the administration wantonly overloaded a system that was overloaded. they didn't have a plan to work through that. and a lot of this is the result of not having a plan, having to work through something that's a gigantic logistic move for any government to deal with at the border. so it's irresponsible and you have sad stories like this exacerbated. >> and i mean, just a cruelty of the policy in terms of the way it was implemented, the incompetence of it and the inability to put people back together. i mean, no way in time for the deadline. get it beyond what they ally for asylum and not. this shouldn't have happened. i think the american people, that's the problem for the administration right now. i think and it's why there's so