justice, to objestruct justice,f you use a power, american law, many cases have held and we go through them. if you use legal power as an american official with corrupt intent to try to impede an investigation for wrongful reason, like by issuing a corrupt pardon, yes. that is part of obstruction of justice. and that is as we study what happened yesterday, the one, two punch, two bomb shells of cohen and manafort, the question is what comes next. we know mueller is focusing on obstruction of justice. i think these hints of pardons hold more peril for the president. >> everyone stand by. thank you. much more to discuss as we await a white house briefing, scheduled to get under way within the next few minutes really. and just in, reaction from members of congress. what republican leadership are saying and not saying about michael cohen's plea, including his offer to testify before lawmakers without immunity.