investigation. >> look, that becomes our quandary here, ken. and we're going to spend two blocks on this tonight, because there are so many issues to look into. what's the standard for us? you said with anita hill, they were adults. okay. so if you do it as a kid, is it different? i would submit yes. can people change as they get older? we would all submit yes. >> sure. >> but if the measure is, who gets on the supreme court, what do you make the standard? >> and every senator is going to decide that. and part of the problem here, especially as lawyers talk about it, is this doesn't get due process, as we think of due process. this is going to be done under the klieg lights, and i don't envy either of these two, in particular. but you do look for those corroborating elements. and as somebody who worked on sexual assault prevention for several years, especially with young people, what i would tell