testimony. being asked questions by white house aides pertaining to doctor ford's accusations. clearly the white house wants him to do well when he goes before the senate judiciary committee. >> thank you so much. let's talk about all of this with georgetown law professor emma coleman jordan. she was one of anita hill's attorneys and helped hill to prepare to testify against clarence thomas. also with me, cnn analyst ron brownstein. good to see both of you. first, before we get into it, i want to you both listen to two members on the senate judiciary committee, a democrat and a republican, talk about kavanaugh's nomination. listen. >> doesn't kavanaugh have the same presumption of innocence as anyone else? >> put his denial in the context of everything that i know about him in terms of how he approaches his cases. as i said, his credibility is